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20260505-Ancient Greek Intensive Course - Part 15
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Fantastic. I can hear you. So, we were having some problems there. All right. So, thanks for coming last last uh segment like that. I thought that worked out well.
Oh, I think you're muted now. I can't hear you. >> My bad. Uh, yeah, it was fun. >> Good. Good. Is it fun or is it work to go? [laughter] >> Yes. Intimidating. >> Is it intimidating? Cuz there's there's people watching you, right? >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> The people are watching you. That's a factor we're going to have to consider when we look back on this and say, "Okay, how did the how did the four-week turn out?" Um, >> yeah, for sure. >> We're going to have to consider the fact that you were under observation. Right. Do you think this would be any different if it was if it was uh say it was local and I was teaching you in a classroom and it just so happened that everybody else dropped the course but you
Um [laughter] would it what you think you'd be more comfortable with that or would that affect your performance I guess is what I'm saying. M probably. And maybe it's like also I don't know. Yeah, I feel like um
I don't know, but it probably be like more way more chill, a lot less stress maybe. But I do like the the aspect of the accountability like people are watching in the way like that are that are supportive, you know, kind of that I mean we're all learning together in the classroom. So, it's I try to just try to not worry about that. >> That's what I liked about what you said was when you said that people were holding you accountable. I thought, "Oh, that's really good."
>> So, that's that's the benefit you get out of people watching you is they hold you accountable, >> right? Maybe that's I don't know. Does that outweigh any sort of need for privacy? Maybe. I don't know. What do you think? I think it's half and half, you know. >> Yeah. >> I mean, there's benefits to both, right?
>> What's your opinion of Herodotus? Would just get tell me that. I don't know if you were able to see it cuz I know you were putting kids down. >> Yeah. Um, I saw some of it. I thought that was really interesting. Um the the whole first um documentation of history being that is uh is really wild.
Um >> yeah, it is. It's scary, isn't it? The It's scary. I mean, why didn't they have like Why didn't he start with like, oh, this is how they built the pyramids or something, you know, or you know, Right. >> Right. Yeah. You'd think it'd be more wholesome. >> Yeah. Yeah. They could have had something better. No, he starts off with, you know, which cuz that's how important it was. All the epics before Homer are media's epics. So,
We already know about this world. And the the thing is, if you look at all of those girls, cuz that's really what they are. They're not adult women yet. And if you look at them, they're all part of that ehic priesthood. Each one of them is. >> And [snorts] yeah, so it's absolutely gorgeous. I was christeded. Escilis tells us I was Christed. >> I should have said that tonight. I Oh god. Yeah. Oh, did you have a picture of her Christed? Oh, fantastic. Fantastic. And she's raving. What did
You think about the LSIS? The place that a woman can take her brain where she's beyond and I think that's what is the oracular. I think that's what the >> Yeah. >> You know, >> definitely. Yeah. I love that. Uh I think it's Yeah. part of our uh our
Nature. Yeah. To be able to do that. What about it though that because they look at it as a dissolution like you're totally broken up. >> It's like projecting out from your physical self.
>> Yeah. I wonder what's going on in the brain. Like what is the, you know, what are they doing? Here's a culture that has developed a tech around this process that's a biological process that's some kind of it's it's only biological but it's um visionary so it be it's spiritual
>> And >> yeah it's utilizing sound and and it's and it's use it's using ritual and it's there's a lot of aspects it's like sexual too and I don't know it's so then innately it's involving the nervous system and the uh the emotions and you know song obviously and there's a lot of elements
>> I wonder when you >> when you mention the song I wonder if there's some kind of um if if it [clears throat] is some kind of brain thing that women are undergoing that allows them to make some kind of transition. What does the music do? Like is that what's setting their mind? Is that as they're going through this experience? Is that how they can get there? >> Right. Um it's not >> put you in like a in like a space of hypnosis, right? Something like that,
>> Right? Which is not male. That's that's not male at all, right? There's no music coming out of the [\\h__\\h] inciminator. It's not it's not making music. You know what I mean? So, um it's a really when you read the technical side of what they're doing and the drugs and everything that they're putting together and what how they're being used. Oh my god. I Everything I read today was dirty. I just put in I put in like dick and Christ and oh my god I thought I had seen a lot but now
It's just like oh Jesus these people. >> Wow. >> Fantastic. >> Did you get a chance to read unit 12? >> Um yeah I I read through it. I saw how it's kind of adding on to um to like the the verbies
>> And uh Oh, yeah. So, like the the endings being me and then all the endings that can change based on that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> yeah. What did you think? What did you think about I thought you said verby. You said verb me, right? >> Verb, right? I thought >> I thought you >> I thought, have you started drinking? What's going on? No. Um, before we get to the workout, can we warm up with some actual Greek and just take our time and actually
>> Look at it. Now, did you get a chance to look at any of the readings? >> Yeah, I did. I did like the first three. >> First three. Fantastic. Um, which one do you feel best about? Let's start with that one. >> Um, we could do the the
Uh maybe Oh, the first and second one are are fairly the same uh level of easiness, so we can start the first one. >> Excellent. >> Yeah. Um, let's see here. >> Go. >> So, I I put um against necessity. >> No, no. Read read the Greek for me. >> I'm sorry. Yes. Ros
Um against necessity. Not even AIS can stand against
>> We we talked about uh yesterday who necessity was and yeah, >> I don't know a lot of context about it, but Notice that she's capitalized here. I mean, you've got her definition, a nank below, and they tell you necessity, but notice notice the editors know that this is a woman, not a concept.
>> Right. >> Mhm. >> Aries cannot stand against an
>> It makes you want to figure out who she is, doesn't it? No, >> I don't know who she is. I mean, aside from uh what what you told me yesterday.
>> Yeah. Watch this here. I want to show you a tool. Um type in Theoi after any name of any god and use this uh you probably seen this date this what do you call this? The site. >> The site. >> Yeah. Um, look, she's the primordial goddess of necessity, compulsion, inevitably. Okay, that's kind of >> sanitary. In the orphic cosmoggony, she emerged self-formed at the dawn of creation. An incorporeal,
That's important, incorporeal, non-bodied, serpentine being.
>> God. >> Yeah. Okay. She they talk about her embracing the cosmos. Do you understand? Who's her mate? Cronis, right? Entwining of their coils, etc., etc. Now, the really good thing, here's a nice picture of her. She's the winged. Notice that she's winged. She's got the winged uh she's got the wings. Those are going to be golden.
Okay. Have you ever seen the serpent with the wings?
Right. You can't fight. You can't fight against it. >> You can't fight against it. Boom. Look at the here. Her parents, >> right? Look at Gaia. Oh, Ka is there, right? That's the one that you really have to consider. Hudros. Sure. What is Hudros?
Here, look at it in the Greek. Now you can read this. >> Primordial waters. >> Yes, he's the wetness. Galen says, right? The wetness of the world. You have to have wetness or you don't get seed.
Right? That's the way it works. Um I mean this is the the basic science. Are you stupid? Right? That's Galen. That's his attitude, right? [laughter] Right. So, here she is. Here she is. And this is how this site works. Let me take you back to Anank. You're going to have Look at her children. Oh,
Ether and Fis Chaos. Ether and Fannis, the visible invisible one, >> right? >> Yeah. >> If she is the mother of the Moira, right? Who [clears throat] is she? Right. Is she black knight? Is she the Akidnic mother? Yes, absolutely. Right.
So, look what they call her. They call her addressa here, right? Isn't that nice? Address sta. She's You can't get by her. You can't get by her, right? She is inescapable.
Ines I love that. Don't What is Who is this woman whose arms embrace the cosmos? Who is inescapable?
>> I love it. Okay, let's go back to the reality of our workout. So that right? No, we don't want to do that. Look at a nank. Look at a nonke there. And now realize that not even Aries.
Not even Aries. Wow. I think that's impressive. Don't you?
>> Yeah. You do? >> You sound distracted. Did I lose you for a second? >> No. >> No. Are you sure?
>> Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm here. >> Okay, good. Good. Here. Okay, Chewy, I got it. Leave me with the thing and go take care of the snakes. Thank you for the help. How about Uripides Bakkeye? You did that one, right? And by the way, >> beautiful translation.
>> Um, yeah, I did this one. I >> I'm not sure that I did it right, but
Um, you want me to do it? >> Yeah, go ahead and read it in Greek. >> Okay.
I put women men uh oh yeah I didn't understand how to how to do the first line but um into nets put yourself into a state and then bacus will come um where death gives justice.
Yeah, let's just smooth it out a little bit. This is from the Bakai and I'm going to show you the beginning at the end of the workout today. I'm going to show you the beginning of the Bakkeye. Um, Gonai.
Let's just go slowly. What? There's no reason to. Okay. Gnai,
That damn thing could be a nominative or it could be evocative, right? >> Yeah. Okay. So, I want you to consider that. Let's just look at structure. An that's a nominative. So, there's our subject in the next clause. Then we get a prepositional phrase. S is ace.
>> Is ace. Did they tell you that? Yeah, they tell you that in the notes, >> right? And what is a bolos? >> What is a bolos? some some kind of net for you know like hunting. >> Yeah, >> hunting. >> And then we get our verb and this is a very common oneist
Cath. Look at cist below. It's a me verb. That's why they're giving you practice with it. Right. >> Yeah. >> Appoint establish. Yeah. to put into a state. To be established, to be appointed, to enter into a state.
Hey ladies. >> Yeah. The ladies into the state, the women, >> right? Hey ladies. Right. They're there. In other words, these women have been to that place. They've been through lies. They've been through the one who breaks down. They've been through the um they found Aphrodite.
Isn't that interesting? >> And what are they doing? He's dressing him there. You know, hey ladies, an air the dude cistati is established ace bolon in a net. The dude is caught in a net,
>> Right? [snorts] This is Pentheus they're talking about. They're going to kill him, right? Eventually, they're going to kill him because that's what women do who have been there. They come back with a state state of justice that causes them to murder. Isn't that nice? >> Yeah. >> A b a b in the vocabulary they give us there, baches
Is a bachan, they say, right? Look, they don't even really translate it, but they tell you it's a maddened woman, worshipper of Dionis.
>> Emphasis on the maddened. >> Yeah.
Whose death or whose death dose will give deacon
You see what Bach and women do? They kill people. Oh god. But it's only bad people. [laughter] >> Yeah.
>> Could you put yourself into a maddened state where you could serve justice by ripping off the heads of [snorts] bad people?
>> Probably. >> Yeah. I think that would see and it's a thing that you can't be you can only be a woman. Notice that it's women. I'm not making this up. Look, it's bake, right? It's feminine. It's [\\h__\\h] feminine,
Right? That's you. Bakus. >> Yeah. Bakus. Bacas is you. That's the point, >> right? That woman who is maddened, she's the worshipper and she is the god, right? And the god has the power to do what? To execute justice, to bring justice.
>> Wow. >> A nonense. >> A nank pushes the cosmos to justice. Isn't that gorgeous? I mean, why else would you Why else would you notice all of these gods, the fates, right? Even the furies, the furies, what do they do? They chase down the [\\h__\\h] murderers, right? That's what the furies do.
So, I mean, these bacan women are um in a state of of mania that I don't know. I've never seen it. I don't know. I've known a lot of women in my time. Never seen one
Enter the Bak state. Would you like to enter the Bak state? >> I've I'm sure I I have.
>> Fantastic. Fantastic. Now, now you got to lead the chorus. Okay, let's look at vocabulary. See if we can go anywhere with this. 351. >> Okay.
Allelum one another recipro reciprocal pronoun.
Gra. Writer, painter. Gra. Grading. Painting. Deca 10. Then deoros. Deorgu. uh skilled workmen.
>> Let's look at graphus and graphic first. Notice the root. Notice the roots the same. It's just the suffix aus or eay. Now I um >> I think the I think I'm gonna limit that to the a on the end. It's better. It's more like aos and a which the a by itself the aa indicates an abstract right a thing whereas the aos whenever you put aos on something it means one who does whatever that root is. So I just want you to recognize those suffixes and how they're how you know
How they're kind of >> you're going to see patterns. I want you to get used to seeing patterns in that. Yeah. Deca 10. Nice. And the Damy ergos is that workman. Ah, yeah. I don't want to get into the platonic stuff right now, but okay. Okay. >> Okay. How about the verb ditto me? Say it. Give me those parts.
To give. >> Yeah. To give. It's a very common verb and it's one of its compounds is right underneath that.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. To give back. To give back. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I see how the oppo is working. Yeah. middle. Look how it's used in its middle voice. To give back for yourself is to sell.
>> Yeah, that's great. >> Yeah, there you go. >> That's funny. >> Keep going. What is the next one? Another numeral. I love the numerals. Ania Enia. Um, nine. >> Yes. What is the most famous Iniad? The ninefigured Iniad in antiquity.
>> Who is the most famous Iniad? >> I don't know. >> The muses. Nine muses. >> Oh, yeah. >> Muses. Now there were different numbers of muses at different times but that one became kind of canonical. Anyway, keep going.
Epos epus word uh or in plurals sometimes epic poetry
Interpreter. >> Yes. One who interprets. Hermonos. Now those morons. >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. You got the rough breathing. Good. Um the the a on the end of it is the one who does that. Right. So who is the one who interprets? Well, it's the interpreter. Who's the translator? Right. Okay fine. But now those people Wes Wes Huff and those people talking about hermeneutics, >> they don't even know. They don't even recognize where this stuff is coming from. So anyway, what's a zograph?
The >> zapos painter. >> Yeah, but what does the word mean? Zapos. >> Oh, so zapos animal drawer. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, >> that's so nice. Um, >> yeah.
>> A >> living drawer. Drawer of the deptor of the living life of the living. >> Yeah. Yeah. extend it be if you say animals animals is okay because it is >> but in that sense we are animals too >> we're we're living so the living writer what do you do you is that what painters do they bring the living into
>> What yeah some of these baffle me right some of the etmologies and [snorts] the Greeks would sit around and talk about theon Right? What is the origin? What is the real meaning of this word? Right? They came up with etmology and everybody's like, "Oh, the Romans are so smart." No, they're not actually.
Then we get another mi verb. Histi, go ahead and say those um principal parts.
Is nothing >> good >> to stand or make stand. >> Yeah. So actively when you stand something up right as opposed to you can use it middle or in a in an intransitive way just to stand right to be there standing. So it's you can think of stand when you think of histamy think of stand. The only problem is histami occurs a lot by itself but it also occurs a [\\h__\\h] ton as compounds like the one underneath it. A histami. You know what that is? That's a o ao plus histami. When you put oppo and histami together, they say we don't like
When two vowels come together. Take off the omocron. Then you get op histammy. So when you get op histami, the p with the puff of air on the histami turns into aistami turns into a fe. Isn't that clever? >> Yeah. Yeah, >> that's cool. [snorts] >> Revolt. Revolt. >> Revolt. >> Yeah.
>> Okay, cool. And then underneath that you have cathi. Again, it's kata plus histami. Take out the alpha, the towel turns into a theta. Cisti. Isn't that cool? The towel transforms. Yeah. >> Wow.
Yeah. [snorts] >> Yeah. to appoint, establish, put into a state. Oh god, look at how much this can mean. Just think establish. Establish,
>> Right? Cistami is to stand something up. Kata, which you can see is a prefix above. It means down against or it just strengthens the meaning of the verb like really set down. To really set down is to establish something.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. If you understand how their mind is working it out, it makes it kind of makes more sense. Katalu [clears throat] is to destroy or dissolve. Catalysis.
>> Now, why do you want to be dissolved? Is that what we live for? To be dissolved? Is that a Is that a woman uh thing that that's the reality of life is your dissolution and men never figure it out. They just go around squirting things, right? Like,
Oh god, it's it's the way they look at it is just kind of I don't know. Kind of makes me embarrassed to be a dude.
Monos mon please notice that that's alone >> right you you can see the mono root there [snorts] >> ud is not ud is not poin is from what place >> right from what place right
>> Po yeah interrogatives these are all interrogatives those are questions who where >> [laughter] >> Who? There. Right. Right. Oh god. What's going on? It's those accents. Look at pros. There's a beautiful preposition with genative means
In the eyes of or in the name of with the date of it means near >> and with an accusative means toward. You're going to see this mostly with the accusative of this is motion expressing motion toward, >> right? But every once in a while they're going to purposely just throw in it throw in its use with a genative, which is pretty rare. So you got to remember something like in the name of, right?
Just remember that when plus a >> um notice that as a prefix then goes to its basic against or to it's motion is motion heavy. Soon is accompaniment. It's a preposition that involves accompaniment. So its prefix just means together or with. >> So think of the word >> synthesis is just something that you put together.
>> Yeah. >> And it's from that prefix soon, right? Plus tith Amy. Tith is that next mi verb which is so common. So common
Meaning to put to put or place. Put or place. I wish they would have put place there as well.
>> Yeah. >> How about the next verb? Fileto. Look at that one. Give me the principal for example. Filo. Eile
Peril. My epilane. Epiline. Yeah. >> And what does it mean to love?
>> You know this little game we play >> where I ask you what the word means to you and then we figure out what it means to Greek. So what does love mean to you? >> M well uh uh adoration, worship, appreciation.
Yeah, maybe. >> Okay, we'll we'll try that. That's your definition. What does it mean to them? This type of love. Love regard with affection. Look at halfway down this paragraph. You see right here?
Mhm. >> Notice its opposite is misin
Right? It means to hate. So this is the love that is the opposite of hate. Okay, I think I understand that. Right? Okay. But look, it has a special relationship with sexual love. It's got a special one. We'll learn it as we go as we look at it. Look at number two. To treat affectionately or kindly. It's getting closer to what you were saying love is >> to treat affectionately. So when you welcome somebody to your home. You can see in the Odyssey they do this, right?
You exchange filema. >> Let me give you fa. If I were there, I would kiss your cheeks and you would welcome me into your home and wash my hands. Isn't that nice? Right? Cuz nobody wants a guest with dirty [\\h__\\h] hands.
Treat affectionately. FileMiss on the cheek. Greetings. Okay. But look this same filema right can be applied to the love of a dude for his wife and they give you a specific example and they translate it cherish.
>> So there it's closer to your adoration, right? Because he's he's really adoring her.
Yeah. >> And then they throw then they throw us a curveball. At the same time, it's just sexual intercourse.
>> Yeah. So, I can show outward signs of love like we're talking about with a kiss of a guest, right? But I can also just be on your side. that I can approve or like you. >> So, okay, it there's a little bit of bending here that can happen with the verb. So, does that help you at all? Does that help you at all to
To process? You're gonna have you're gonna have to see in what context it's used. And if you're talking about a husband, a husband and wife, maybe you're going to bend toward that sexuality as opposed to an affection,
>> It's quite a spectrum, isn't it? I mean, it >> Yeah, I think it's I think it works. Where the >> Yeah.
>> Oh no. Where did my Am I sharing? Yeah, I'm sharing. Where's the text? Oh, Chewy. There. There we go. Okay. Um and then Phobet Oh my underneath that to fear. And surprise surprise, Phobet. Oh my is exactly what you would think it is when you say fear in English. That's phobi. [laughter] So >> yeah. phobia.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Now, what is a Damy urgos? They tell you on this note, the noun damorgos >> is a skilled workman. Well, what is that exactly? It's a compound. Damios, right? Having to do with the public or the deem, the people,
>> Right? And >> yeah, >> the work, right? It means a person skilled enough to be a professional and can be applied to any craft including and you'll notice this is all bronze age stuff because wearon won is a bronze age
Word. These are bronze workers. Surprised, right? [laughter] No, you shouldn't. But you may be surprised that it's also sculptors and doctors.
>> Doctors. Yeah. So in some cosmologies there is a deami urgos or dei weros the creator of the world. Welcome to anank. Oh god. >> Mhm. >> Right. [laughter] Right. >> Right. And realize realize please don't fail to see that this has the word deos in it. When you talk about democracy, it doesn't start with Solon. It starts ye centuries before with priesthoods of women oracles who have been enlightened,
Have been beyond thanks to the mystery and can work can bring that work for the people, right? The create they are creators, right? These are the these are reflections of the giants, right? Who were those women that attracted those those angels, right? They produced giants. They were creators of giants. Mother Earth, right? You understand all that earthly >> stuff going on. Realize a kidna lives within the earth, >> right? >> So, it's it's lovely. Lovely. Okay. Um, they give you a little spiel on epos. We're going to take a break, but they
Give you a little >> um Appos just I I wondered if you thought about logos when you saw it cuz you're like word, wait a minute, that's logos, right? >> Right. It's really not synonymous. >> Right. It's not a synonym of logos at all. >> They say in many respects it is. I don't think it is at all. >> Um and you're just going to have to adapt a feeling for this as as you're exposed to it. But for right now, start off thinking that it's word, right? Or something that is said or a story, a bunch of words together. And we'll go
From there and and see it. Okay. Um let's take a break and 10 minutes. We'll be back at uh 33. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Cool.
Can you hear me? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Fantastic. Let's uh look over the grammar of unit two. Um let's start let's start with the mi verbs. Well, just note on page 337. We don't need to reread everything because you've read it, >> but >> yeah, >> look at I'm going to point you to the really important things. Look on 337 A, B, and C. >> Just remember those three verbs. Ditto owe me to give, tith me, to put, and hist me, to stand. Okay, just remember
Those three because those are the real that's really what we're going to be using. Those are the most common. There's a handful of other ones that are most common, but those are definitely like the three most common may verbs in Greek. You're going to see over and over and over again.
>> Um, go to page 338. >> Okay, >> go to page 338 and notice here. Let me let me me do it on let me do it on the over on the on the screen sharing so we can everybody can keep up [sighs] 338.
So here's he starts with the present or they as they start with the present stem they're talking about different vowel grades for the verb. Notice did omi can have did do with an omega. Did with an omron. Tithi can have tith or tith. Histami can have histe or hista. So just realize that you're going to see changes like that. That vowel grade is going to change.
And if you look at the endings here, they give you the endings. How are we gonna how are we going to memorize these? Look at what we look at what we've had before. Oasa omi. We've got that. But here we've got mi sigma c mente ai.
I want you. Yeah. >> Look at the look at the uh commonalities between omen and men. Okay, that's good. T and T, UI and AI. Those are bas those are basically the same endings. You could argue that the the third person singular is the same, too, cuz A and C. Okay. Well, you've got a sigma in there, but you're basically hiding the same vow. Ace is just the sigma from me. And the So, the the only one that's really different is the me on the top. I just
Want you to notice how they're really not >> these verbs are really not that different, but we are going to have to memorize a whole bunch of new forms, right? So, let's just let's just look at the presents. >> Okay, >> ditto doo dooi
Dittoman doi. Right. I give ditto me. You give each year it gives ditto. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> Dittoman. We give ditto. You give and dasi. They give. Look at tithi and realize what's going on. By the way, for ditto and did men. So the difference between the singular and plural and ditto. Notice that the omega drops to an omron in the plurals. Mhm. >> They have the same vowel grade changes in all of the mi verbs. Look at tithami. It changes from an ADA to an epsilon and histammy changes from an ADA to an alpha. Does that can you see the pattern
There? >> Mhm. >> Okay. Good. Nothing new, right? You're assimilating faster than most. Here are your middle and passive my tie methus that untie. Well, look, we don't have to we don't have to memorize anything new. Ditto
God damn it, I missed that. I miss No, I'm missing the accent. It's embarrassing.
God damn it. And did right. >> Oh god. Helman, get your [\\h__\\h] tight. You give look at tithammy. Look at tithammy. It's turned into tithami. Tithsai. Tithoti. Tiththa. >> Titha. And [clears throat] tithi. Oh god. All of them using that epsilon shorter vow grade, right? That's why they put the stems up there for you to show you what's happening. So that middle passive loses its stronger vow grade, right? I
Don't know why it's but that's what happens. Those are the rules, right? What about our imperfects? On is our regular thematic vowels, right? Imperfect for the me verbs. A new a sigma and nothing. >> A new a sigma and nothing. a mente and a >> makes sense then >> it's cutting off >> does it okay go what do you mean tell me >> it's cutting off that uh the beginning of like the you know the imperfect active or indicative >> active [gasps] the yeah >> except for the the third plural but >> yeah the third plural gets a little
What are our perfect endings? An ammonate ai.
Is this third plural doing something along the same lines? It may be looking for the same off-ramp. You know what I mean? They're they're all related. Oh god. I was giving edidun
Edun. Now remember how yesterday I told you use this device of looking up verbs in LSJ. [clears throat] >> Yeah, >> right. You're going to want to be doing that with these mi verbs, right? Because to be honest, this is imperfect. But when you look at etane, >> does that look like an imperfect? No. Well, that looks like some kind of freaking aerist passive or something. [laughter] What the hell? >> Yeah, that's probably what I'd give. Yes. >> That's where your gut's going to go. Atace looks like a participle for goodness sakes, right? Oh god. So
If you need to use LSJ, don't. It's not if you need to use it, you should be using it. Because you know what's better than you? You sit there and you try to figure it out. And what's better than you spinning your wheels? >> If you can't get something right away, what's better than you spinning your wheels is looking it up. And when you look it up, you'll see it can be sometimes it can be two or three different forms. So you learn things every every time you do that. So you
Should be looking stuff up. Good. >> Okay. >> Here's the middle passive main sto. So, you know how it goes. Edit. Edain, right? I was being given. Oh, nice. Nice. There's your subjunctive. Surprise, surprise. They have long vowels.
>> All right. Is that >> I told you, right? You going to see that long vowel. You're going to think, "Oh, this is a subjunctive." All right. Always default to that. Try that subjunctive first.
Okay, >> look at this note too at the top of page 344. Note that the subjunctive of histammia is formed from the stem hist not the expected hista.
It's like there's no consolation here, >> right? It's like there was supposed to be a rule. It's supposed to be hista there. [sighs] No, that's not how you find it in the wild. So, okay, there's your middle passive uh subjunctives,
Oi, oai, omi, all long vowels. All right, so that's be careful the second person singular.
Um, you're going to you're gonna for some reason you're going to mistake this whenever whenever we get into the EOTA subscript. Um, it somehow delegitimizes that that ending and it ends up looking it doesn't look necessarily like uh like we're dealing with subjunctives now anymore. So, I don't know. It's just a thing. It's just a thing. Maybe it's my thing, but I've noticed that in the past dy a lot of times people will not catch this. It's just a second singular subjunctive. Okay.
Boom. >> Here are your optives. Oi becomes EA and EA, >> right? And either Eman or EA. Notice there's, you know, varietals. The ADA that can come out. >> The important thing is it's the iota. You see the iota in there. You see the oi or a or i. You should think to yourself optative doyen. You know
>> Um what did I give? What did I give? [snorts] All right. I could give on. I could give you something or I should give you something. I would. Okay. Fantastic. More optives. Those are the middleles. Einto Little passives. Is this not just the same thing over and over and over again? I'm starting to want to jump off the ship, are you? >> That's overwhelming.
>> Okay. See, let me stop for a minute and I want to ask you here >> what Look, I'm just swamping you now. And you you read through this. You said earlier, you read through it. So, you saw what they're doing with me verbs and how they're building on the same pattern. So, you're telling yourself, "Okay, I don't have to necessarily memorize these. I kind of already have them in my brain." >> Mhm. So yeah, what tell me how do you um where are you in unit 12? Do you feel
Okay to go on to exercises after learning these mi verbs? You feel okay with me verbs and exercises? >> I'm Yeah, I mean I could try I could try them. I mean it'll take I'll be probably really slow, but I can
>> Feel you feel ready to tackle it. Okay, let's finish off the vocab. I mean the uh grammar then. And there's only one. Look at page 349 just briefly because because that's all we got to do. Um fear clauses after verbs of fearing. A fear clause can serve as an object of the verb. What are you afraid of? You're afraid of something. I fear the dog. I'm afraid of the dog. It's unfortunate that we say of the dog in English because it sounds like a genative there.
I fear the dog. I'm afraid of the dog, right? That dog is the object. It's the thing that you're fearing. It is introduced by the conjunction may which in a fear clause has the meaning that or somewhat archaically
Lest. Now, I prefer to translate these as lest because to me it always makes sense. I fear lest something happen, right? That's what my fear is. Yeah. >> Um and if you fear that something's not going to happen, it's may oo, right? I fear that something won't happen. >> Mayo, I fear less something not happen. So either way, that's why they go ahead and put that less there just so you can um get it in your brain. Fear clauses like purpose clauses follow the rules of sequence of moods. All right, one verb
Which introduces fear clause on the next page is phobi. I told you it's no different than English. So just look at the examples. >> Phobi fobumi. And why is it not fobi? Because e and can't exist there. They have to contract. So fobumi I am afraid
Lest loose he free the kacus the evil. Right now how do we know what what to say? Look they give you a choice that he may or will that he may or will I'm afraid. Yeah, >> that he will free the slaves. I'm afraid lest he free the wicked men. All right. Oh god, look at the next one. For boom, I may. Ooh, I'm afraid
That he may or will not free the good uh p people.
Boom. I was afraid that he might. Why? Why are we switching to might? Because we're obeying that sequence of modes right now. We're eob. We're in a past tense. We're in a secondary tense. So, we're expecting the optative
Instead of the subjunctive. So we get loose, which is indeed that optative. And look how they tell us we can translate it might. If you feel safe, it's just translating it might like you would a purpose clause. Good. All right. I was afraid that he, she, or it might
Free the evil people. And they tell you there in addition to might, you could say would because that's how we express it in English. I was afraid that he would. Right. It's more of a future. Okay. Okay. That's okay. When a fear clause refers to an action contemporaneous with or prior to that of the main verb of fearing, the indicative is used. Okay. So, instead of a subjunctive optive, how are we going to do this? for bumi I'm afraid
May lee that he frees the wicked people
Right I am afraid that he is freeing the wicked people Lou right what happened to our subjunctive we don't need it >> we don't need a all we need is a straight up indicative here right okay look at the next one for boom My elus I'm afraid that elus he she or it freed
>> No problem right those are easy those are easier to translate right so whenever a fear clause refers to an action contemporaneous with or prior then you know that okay it's going to be using one of those all right that's all the grammar we need now I want to go do some exercises
If you if you think now is a good time, I think now is a good time. >> We can try. >> Did you I know you're I know you're working very very busily. Did you get to um
No. >> Okay. I want you good. I want I want you to start with 21. So, read through it. Take your time and let's translate some some of these exercises knowing that we're doing push-ups and pull-ups and that it's approaching midnight your time. Okay. So, >> please, I understand that it's late. >> Yeah. Okay.
So tear see an baselis and mah
Which one's our main verb? >> Let's say um an >> good good. >> Where's the subject for that? Where's the subject? Is it uh the the theoids?
>> No, that's in the date of case. Can't be the subject. >> Oh, yeah. That one's um the basilus. >> There you go. Basilus. Anati.
I mean um so putting up so I'm see was the ending
>> Yeah if you if you have to skip back go back to page here 339 go back to page 339 find out what kind of form that is >> right >> skipping back and forward is part of the part of the intensive process because I know that you don't remember all those forms already. >> Yeah, for I don't not yet. Um I know I have to look for Okay. So >> So go back and just take the Anna off it and look for a tac. >> Yeah. So the Anna means up and then the tac is put. So it would be to but
Putting putting up. >> Yeah. Uhhuh. >> Who's doing it? The boss. >> The king. Yeah. >> What is he putting up? What is he he puts up? What?
Babble. Well, that's uh >> Ta topla. Try that. Taopla. >> The seven gods. Hopla is hope or is that eight? >> Oh, those are weapons, right? >> Oh, yeah. Like hope. Yeah. Okay. >> Right. Mhm. >> Um the Okay.
The king sets up, see the king sets up these weapons and then he does it >> uh the it's in the datative. So to try to for or with >> for the gods. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> He sets them up. Yeah. He sets them up to or for the gods who are sorti
The gods who are saviors to the savior gods you could say the king sets them up >> and uh what is the circumstances under which he did this? That's where you get the nikes the >> participle right from nikao. That's a just a masculine singular, right?
Participle. Fantastic. From Nika Aist win battle. >> Yeah. Yeah. After winning the battle maybe, right? Oh, God. He set up He set things up, right? He put these weapons up to the god. Set them up as trophies. I is what it's trying to say, right? Okay. Fantastic. One more shorty that's got some of this histammy in it. You know what I mean? Number 22. 22.
>> Okay, >> take your time. There's a lot of vocab now. I'm expecting for the vocab burden to start weighing heavily on you. >> Oh. >> So,
Okay. So, um the good and beautiful wisdom are established in any way to the rule. >> Yeah. Yeah. Your verb is cathe
Established. Yeah. And what tense is that? What tense?
First? >> Yeah. Let's fly back. Fly back. Look at it. It's on page boom 341.
Turns out the damn thing is an imperfect.
>> So translated as an imperfect and it's a third person singular. >> Nice. >> But I don't see a subject here. There's nothing in here that can be a nominative. So, you're just gonna have to figure out just he, she, or it.
So it would be uh she was uh she she was established.
>> No, it's active. She's established. >> She is established. >> No, no, no. She established something. She set >> something up. She established a >> rule >> for the >> you know do this one. Yeah. What does that mean to the rule >> command? for the sake of governance or for the sake of rulership or for for the sake of I think they put empire in there, right? For the sake of fire empire, she somehow established what? Tus agathus.
>> The good and the Yeah. >> The good. Yes. And those called sos what is the wise? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, she established tus calumnus, those called Agathus, Kaisophus. It doesn't make a lot of sense. It literally just says she established somehow for the sake of empire, the ones called good and wise. Okay? I just want you to see the cathe because that's what's important. They're just dri They're just getting you used to using those. >> Um, and it's active. It's active. Yeah. Sometimes it's tough you
>> Um how you want to make it. Okay. Now, which exercises did you do? It's 12:00 your time. Here's what I'm going to do. >> Okay. >> Um I gobbled up some of the time before >> and now it's midnight there. And I can tell you're you're still awake. You're pushing your
>> Alertness. [clears throat] I >> But here's what I want to ask. If you want to say, "Okay, we're done for the day. We can come back Monday and do some of these exercises." >> That's a poss. That's a possibility. I don't want to keep You've worked your ass off this week and I don't want to keep pushing you tonight. I want you to let's just let me make the final call. Let's call it tonight. The workout. We had a good workout. You read you read
Greek. >> You looked at forms and you see that. Oh [\\h__\\h] Now I've got to I've got to practice these histammy tith. I got to practice them a little bit. Okay. So, we we we had a good workout, but I don't want to I don't want to keep burning you out tonight. Um, I've got to think about moving cuz we've got one more week and we're on unit 12. So, we're going to have to if we're going to make it by four, we're going to have to double up a couple of times this week. So, like this weekend, if you could save the exercises
That you've got, we'll open with those instead of with Greek. open with exercises and read units 13 and 14. I want to try to get through units 13 and 14. So, Monday we should have a solid three-hour workout. That's just exhausting. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Okay. All right. How do you feel? >> Good. Yeah. [snorts] Sounds like a plan. Good. Good. >> Is there a lot of pressure from people who were holding you accountable? >> I mean, there's a lot of encouragement more so. I think there's a lot of people
Cheering me on. I think it's crazy. >> I think the whole congregation is rooting for you to be honest. So, >> it feels that way. Yeah. So, there's a lot of pressure. [clears throat] >> Let's go Maline. You are [laughter] >> a Thank you. >> You guys rock. Can can I just say for the what you've done for Melina in giving support like this and for her knowing that you're out there holding her accountable, this is the thing of honor you. This is an honorable, beautiful thing. So, thank you. Thank
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